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Karl



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The doctrine of the Mystical Body of Christ, which is the Church, [Col. 1, 24] was first taught us by the Redeemer Himself. This Church which Christ purchased with His own Blood, [Acts, XX, 28] has riches stored up for Her members, who glory in a thorn crowned Head.

This Church, the Catholic Church, established by the Redeemer resembles its divine Founder who was persecuted, calumniated and tortured by those very men whom He had undertaken to save. Even in these modern and turbulent times there are many who, though outside the fold of Jesus Christ, look to the Church as the only haven of salvation.

The Catholic, the Church of God, not only is despised and hated maliciously by those who shut their eyes to the light of Christian wisdom and miserably return to the teachings, customs and practices of ancient paganism, but is ignored, neglected, and even at times looked upon as irksome by many Christians who are allured by specious error or caught in the meshes of the world's corruption.

That the Church is a body is frequently asserted in the Sacred Scriptures. "Christ is the Head of the Body of the Church." [Col.,1,18]

If the Church is a body, it must be an unbroken unity, according to those words of Paul: "Though many we are one body in Christ." [Rom., XII, 5] But it is not enough that the body of the Church should be an unbroken unity; it must also be something definite and perceptible. "the Church is visible because she is a body."

Hence they err in a matter of divine truth, who imagine the Church to be invisible, intangible, a something merely "pneumatological" as they say, by which many Christian communities, though they differ from each other in their profession of faith, are united by an invisible bond.

The Church which Christ founded by His Blood, He strengthened on the day of Pentecost by a special power, given from heaven. For, having solemnly installed in his exalted office him whom He had already nominated as His Vicar, He had ascended into Heaven; and sitting now at the right hand of the Father He wished to make known and proclaim His Church through the visible coming of the Holy Spirit with the sound of a mighty wind and tongues of fire [Acts, II, 1-4]. For just as He Himself when He began to preach was made known by His Eternal Father through the Holy Spirit descending and remaining on Him in the form of a dove [Luke, III, 22; Mark, 1, 10], so likewise, as the Apostles were about to enter upon their ministry of preaching, Christ our Lord sent the Holy Spirit down from Heaven, to touch them with tongues of fire and to point out, as by the finger of God, the supernatural mission and office of the Church.

That this Mystical Body which is the Church should be called Christ's is proved in the second place from the fact that He must be universally acknowledged as its actual Head. "He is the Head of the Body, the Church" [Col., 1, 18]. He is the Head from whom the whole body perfectly organized, "groweth and maketh increase unto the edifying of itself." [Eph., IV, 16; Col., II, 19]
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Catholic, the Church of God, not only is despised and hated maliciously by those who shut their eyes to the light of Christian wisdom and miserably return to the teachings, customs and practices of ancient paganism, but is ignored, "

Karl, lets talk about paganism in the catholic church founded by simon mangus.

"[W]e hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty."
--POPE LEO XIII
"...I will be like the most High."
LUCIFER, ISAIAH 14:14
Shocked

"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another..."
Isaiah 42:8
See that Karl, the Lord wont give his glory to the pope.

"...We declare, state and define that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of all human beings that they submit to the Roman Pontiff [pope]."

--POPE BONIFACE VIII, BULL UNUN SANCTUM, 1302




"Neither is there salvation in any other [than Jesus]: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
Acts 4:12



For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

1 Timothy 2:5
see that Karl, the pope cant save you, neither can just being cathloic.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satanism in the Vatican
Catholic Archbishop Emmanuel Milingo, is an exorcist and the author of the book, Face to Face With the Devil. Archbishop Milingo gave a speech entitled, "Satanists at work in the Vatican" at the Fatima 2000 International Congress on World Peace held in Rome 11/18/96-11/23/96. Mr. Milingo addressed an international audience of bishops, priests, nuns, and laity. Excerpts of the speech were reported in the Winter 1997 issue of The Fatima Crusader, a conservative pro-Marian Catholic newsletter that hosted the Fatima 2000 Congress and the 3/3/97 issue of The New American--

"The devil in the Catholic Church is so protected now that he is like an animal protected by the government; put on a game preserve that outlaws anyone, especially hunters, from trying to capture or kill it. The devil within the Church today is actually protected by certain Church authorities from the official devil-hunter in the Church -- the exorcist. ... To the question, 'Are there men of the curia who are followers of Satan?' Milingo responded, 'Certainly there are priests and bishops. I stop at this level of ecclesiastical hierarchy because I am an archbishop, higher than this I cannot go.' Milingo cited papal statements to back up his charges. 'Paul VI said that the smoke of Satan had entered into the Vatican.'"
-- Archbishop Milingo

In The Fatima Crusader article, Malachi Martin, a famous ex-Jesuit, Vatican insider, and best-selling author, is quoted,

"Archbishop Milingo is a good bishop and his contention that there are satanists in Rome is completely correct. Anybody who is acquainted with the state of affairs in the Vatican in the last 35 years is well aware that the prince of darkness has had and still has his surrogates in the court of St. Peter in Rome."
In 1990, Martin made reference to a Satanic rite held in Rome in his 1990 non-fiction best-seller about geopolitics and the Vatican, The Keys of This Blood:

Most frighteningly for [Pope] John Paul [II], he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishops' chanceries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the 'superforce.' Rumors, always difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Pope Paul VI's reign in 1963. Indeed Paul had alluded somberly to 'the smoke of Satan which has entered the Sanctuary'. . . an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony by Satanists in the Vatican. Besides, the incidence of Satanic pedophilia — rites and practices — was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin, in Italy, and South Carolina, in the United States. The cultic acts of Satanic pedophilia are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel's rites. (p. 632)
Martin has revealed much more about this alleged ritual in his recent novel [circa 1996], Windswept House: A Vatican Novel. On page 492 of his book, Fr. Martin. In this story, he vividly describes a ceremony called "The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer" supposedly held in St. Paul's Chapel in the Vatican, but linked with concurrent satanic rites here in the US, on June 29, 1963, barely a week after the election of Paul VI. Just how bad did Martin judge things to be? Extremely so:

"Suddenly it became unarguable that now during this papacy, the Roman Catholic organization carried a permanent presence of clerics who worshipped Satan and liked it; of bishops and priests who sodomized boys and each other; of nuns who performed the "Black Rites" of Wicca, and who lived in lesbian relationships . . . every day, including Sundays and Holy Days, acts of heresy and blasphemy and outrage and indifference were committed and permitted at holy Altars by men who had been called to be priests. Sacrilegious actions and rites were not only performed on Christ's Altars, but had the connivance or at least the tacit permission of certain Cardinals, archbishops, and bishops. . . In total number they were a minority—anything from one to ten percent of Church personnel. But of that minority, many occupied astoundingly high positions or rank.... The facts that brought the Pope to a new level of suffering were mainly two: The systematic organizational links—the network, in other words that had been established between certain clerical homosexual groups and Satanist covens. And the inordinate power and influence of that network." (Windswept, pp. 492-3)
According to The New American, Martin has confirmed that the ceremony did indeed occur as he described. "Oh yes, it is true; very much so," the magazine reported he said. "But the only way I could put that down into print is in novelistic form." He said more members of the clergy becoming aware of the situation, and that Archbishop Milingo was "merely like that actor in the movie Network, who got fed up and said, 'I'm not going to take it anymore.'"

Milingo's remarks have been strangely ignored by the American news media. The New American claimed that a Lexis/Nexis data search found not a single mention of his Fatima 2000 Congress statements, and were informed by an Associated Press researcher that Milingo was considered "a big old mouth" that was always spouting "a lot of insanity," because of his outspoken opinions about the existence of Satan and of miracles.

As for Malachi Martin's book, Windswept House, it has not gotten the critical acclaim or widespread publicity of his past efforts. It has been virtually ignored, even though it is published by Doubleday, a major mainstream house. Reviewers, he said, "are steering away from it. They don't know what to think about it; they don't know what to say."

Malachi Martin passed away in early August 1999. As far as is known, he never recanted on any of his claims that Windswept House was based on an actual satanic ritual in the Vatican in the first days of Pope Paul VI, nor that there is a general satanic conspiracy within the Roman Church.


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Bibliography

The Linkup's Homepage: http://www.thelinkup.com/index.html
The New American: http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1997/vo13no05.htm
Fatima Crusader Report: "FATIMA 2000" by John Vennari, Issue #54 , Winter 1997, http://fatima.org/library/cr54pg06.html
Biblical Discernment Ministries: http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm
These Last Days Ministries http://www.tldm.org/news/milingo.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


The following excerpted from The Cutting Edge--

Please notice the Crucifix that Pope John Paul II is holding up to the people, at left. Study it closely, and you will realize that it is not a Traditional Crucifix, as we show below. Rather, this Crucifix is known as a "Bent Cross". But, what does that mean? For the answer to that question, let us turn to a Roman Catholic author, Piers Compton, writing in his book, "The Broken Cross: Hidden Hand In the Vatican", Channel Islands, Neville Spearman, 1981.

This Bent Crucifix is "... a sinister symbol, used by Satanists in the sixth century, that had been revived at the time of Vatican Two. This was a bent or broken cross, on which was displayed a repulsive and distorted figure of Christ, which the black magicians and sorcerers of the Middle Ages had made use of to represent the Biblical term 'Mark of the Beast'. Yet, not only Paul VI, but his successors, the two John-Pauls, carried that object and held it up to be revered by crowds, who had not the slightest idea that it stood for anti-Christ." (p. 72) On page 56 Compton prints a picture of the current Pope, John Paul II, holding this bent or broken cross, just as we have shown, at left.
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/anti4.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your reasoning borders on that of a moron. How old are you anyway?
I can't help but think that dealing with an immature person. And to be honest, am fighting the urge to quit.

Perhaps you should read about the sensational expulsion of the Devil which occurred in Iowa in 1928. You can find the transcript at http://bibleprobe.com/1928exorcism.htm. Maybe, just may be, the inhabitants of Hell might do a better job at convincing an obstinate and blind heretic like you. If they cannot, then neither can a dead person.

I will not be surprised, though, if you come up with some sort of denial. You are a heretic, and heretics deny anything and everything, as long as it does not agree with their perverse beliefs.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl, do stop whinning.
Your problem isnt with dealing with an imature person, but with dealing with a Christian who doesnt worship the pope, but does worship the Heavenly Father.
If you want to quit, then by all means do so.
You wont have a discussion about anything,you refuse to answer to any questions brought before you, and all you want to do is push catholicism here.And that's cool.
However, dont throw a childish tantrum when someone disagrees with you.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We Catholics are called fools because of

i - belief in the Real Presence of the Body & Blood of Christ in the Eucharist
ii - obedience to the Pope as the Vicar of Christ
iii - our filial devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

We are deemed foolish bse we are the true followers of He Who asks us to "take up our cross" daily. The world hates God so much that the Cross is has been removed even from public schools, so that children can grow up with no knowledge The Lord our God. That one can hardly find a crucifix in the homes of people who claim to be Christians shows how foolish the world considers the Cross.

The world deems foolish, those who attend The Catholic Mass every Sunday and obey all the teachings of the Church. But "Divine Folly is wiser than the wisdom of man," (I Cor. 1:25), as the Apostle tells us. And in the words of the late, great Archbishop Fulton Sheen, to be a Fool for Christ is the greatest compliment the world can give. This consoles us.

Catholic doctrine is foolishness to those on their way to ruin. But to those on the way to salvation it is the power of God. For it is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the cleverness of the clever." ...God has made the wisdom of this world look foolish. Just like the Jews of yonder, the world demands signs and looks for wisdom. The Church, on the other hand, proclaims Christ crucified and His doctrines necessary for Salvation, a stumbling block and foolishness to the world.

We Catholics find consolation in the fact that the Saints before us were fools for Christ. They practiced "Holy Folly" throughout their lives. Most of all, they embraced the Cross of Christ as well as the doctrines taught by His Church, headed His Vicars. That God would would send His only Son to die for our sins is even more foolish. Look at the Cross! There before us hangs a Man, bathed in pain, humiliated, tortured and murdered because He spoke the TRUTH. He continues to do so through His Church and Her unbroken succession of Popes and Bishops here on earth.

People will believe and follow politicians and evangelists who promise them the world. Christ Crucified teaches the Truth and gives Salvation, through the Catholic Church, yet many refuse to accept Him or His Holy Church. Now, stupidity lies in our resolve to follow our own wills rather than the Will of God. And absurdity lies in our own personal sins we commit after all that Jesus suffered for us so that we could become holy despite our wounded nature. The world sees the Cross, and Catholicism as foolish. It rejects the Moral Law, the sanctity of human life from the womb to the tomb, the efficacy of the Sacraments and the necessity of the Church.

He who despises the Catholic Church or who denies that there is life after death is a PATHETIC idiot. He has eyes but cannot see. He has ears but cannot hear. The Truth of the Cross, is that without the Cross there is no Heavenly crown. If the world considers Jesus Christ and His Crucifixion folly and if it sees our Catholic Faith as foolish, then we have nothing to fear for our destiny and our final home is not this world but the other world of Heaven, where all the Fools of God spend eternity before the Majesty of God, Who in His folly created, REDEEMED and sanctified us.

The so-called wisdom of man laughed at the Wright brothers when they began their journey into the air. Who laughs now that more Americans travel by plane each year than by bus or train? The world ignores Christ and His Church, yet cannot save anyone from sin. Only the Cross of Christ saves. Now, Chirst did not say "Take up and read your Bibles" if you wish to be saved. He said, "Take up your Cross and follow Me." When we a follow a person, we do what that person does or did. Otherwise we cannot claim to follow such a person. Likewise to follow Christ, we MUST DO what He did and commands us to do. And that is participate in His sufferings in order to share in His Glory and the rewards of eternal life.

There are two paths, one leads to eternal life and the other leads to eternal perdition. The path to eternal life is difficult, narrow, and strewn with rocks and thorns. It leads to heaven, but only through pain and suffering. This is the path trodden by martyrs throughout the ages.

The other path promises an "easier" route to heaven, by simply reading and personally interpreting the bible. This path is broad and smooth. This path is in fact the highway to perdition. It is a highway because it must accommodate the countless multitude who are averse to the least suffering. Rather they are attracted by the promise of salvation at little or no effort at all. They are the ones who seek and immerse themselves in the pleasures of this life.

At the head of this multitude is the wise men of this world. They are on TV, puffed up with pride, and secure in their knowledge of Scripture. They are certain that the Catholic Church got it all wrong. They arrogantly say that the RC is the anti-Christ. They blaspheme God and His Church at each and every opportunity. They calumniate, disparage, mock and insult the Pope, Christ's Vicar on earth.

They urge the multitude onwards to the bottomless pit, promising unlimited prosperity. They assure the multitude that sodomy not a sin. They say that homosexuality was prohibited only for those who lived in the old testament. They say that it is now OK to be gay, pedophile, lesbian or whatever. Everything is clothed in human rights.

They say all religions are equal and that magic, divination, divination, and even broad-daylight satanism are OK. We live in the golden age of occultism and celebrity rock starts have made sure of that devil worship is a hit. Even children have not been spared, for example Harry Porter has taken over the lives of the young. Spiritualist seances in which the dead are called up to answer certain questions are very widespread.

Rather than join this mad dash to eternal perdition, faithful Catholics choose to remain fools. They choose to battle their way to Heaven via the narrow road. In union with the angels and saints in heaven, voices resounding in unison through out the universe, we say,

Long live the Cross! Long Live Christ crucified!
We kiss the Crucifix of Christ and embrace it with love.
Long live His one and only true Church, which is Catholic!
Long live the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, and Co-Redemptrix!
Long Live Queen Of The Most Holy Rosary!

But we teach that there is only one Church, ant not two, and that the one true Church is the assembly of men bound together by the profession of the same Christian faith and by the communion of the same sacraments, under the rule of legitimate pastors, and especially of the one vicar of Christ on earth, the Roman pontiff. - Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, De Ecclesia Militante


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Karl:)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ya Bella:)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you enjoying HOLY WEEK???
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bella wrote:
Are you enjoying HOLY WEEK???


How can I be "enjoying" when my Saviour is in Agony? I am afflicted.

It is well to consider what price our Lord paid and how much it cost him to wipe out the sins of the children of Adam. For the soul that is not afflicted, on the days of atonement, shall be wiped out from the pages of the Book of Life.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your Savior isnt in agony. HES RISEN AND ALIVE!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl wrote:
How can I be "enjoying" when my Saviour is in Agony? I am afflicted.
The drama of the Maundy Thursday service was quite affecting, at first. But then I thought, why? Why do we have to be dragged down like this every year? We should focus on the present--that's where we live.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody will be able to plead ignorance on the day of reckoning. Not even the heathen.

So where will that leave the modern men of today who have had all the opportunities to know the Truth and yet deny it even when it screams in their face? Truly, we have eyes but do not see.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truth, some people like to stay at the foot of the cross instead of pass it.
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